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Plans to Build an Amos & Andy Board

11/19/2008 10:14:05 AM

Plans to Build an Amos & Andy Board

I'm looking for the plans to build an Amos & Andy Board. Can anyone help me out with this? I can't find any information on the internet at all.

Plans to Build an Amos & Andy Board

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  1. homerleequickshot on 11/19/2008 10:45:27 AM

    What is that?

  2. homerleehomerlee on 11/19/2008 10:47:32 AM

    It's a game board with 44 holes in it that goes on one end of your pool table. Each hole has a number value.

  3. homerleebilliardsforum on 12/11/2008 7:50:47 PM

    Another mention found. Apparently there was a set made by the Saunier Wihem Billiard Comapany - which is no longer in existence.

    "AMOS & ANDY CHECK AND DOUBLE CHECK" BILLIARD GAME/KEENO BOARD. 20x46.5in wood board with forty-six 1.5in dia. holes. Saunier-Wilhem Co. c. early 1930s. 1.25in... (H/I)

    and

    Lot 2124 : "AMOS & ANDY CHECK AND DOUBLE CHECK" BILLIARD GAME/KEENO BOARD. 20x46.5in wood board with forty-six 1.5in dia. holes. Saunier-Wilhem Co. c. early

    There are also some other images I found while searching....

    I found an entry in the the "New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Billiards" that mentions Amos & Andy in relation to billiards:

    This is the actual text in the blurb:

    "Billiard Board Game - A game played on a billiard table on which a thin board with holes has been positioned against an end rail to serve as a target. The player must bank or carom a ball into a hole on the board, thereby scoring an indicated number of poiints. These games were popular by 1916 (which probably means they were played for 10-15 years before that {billiards forum comment}) and such boards are still sold. {proof of that still needed.} They include "Amos and Andy", Barnyard Golf, Black Jack, Hatta Boy, Keno {sometimes spelled kenno}, Mac's Solitare, Pigeon Pool, Roulo, Rummy, Scotch Pool, Star, and Turf."

    IF ANYONE HAS ANY PRINTED, OR VERIFIABLE RULES, PLEASE CONTACT BILLIARDS FORUM. We'll Pay up to $50 for a complete verifiable set, and lower for any range in between.

    I guess I'm on a wild goose chase tonight.

    Here is a cool internet post titled "#4 of the 500 coolest things in the world"

    Old-time Pool Halls and Coke bottle bets

    I don't know about where you grew up. But in a couple of small South Alabama towns, the pool hall on Saturday morning was on the top ten list of fun things we could do. Yes, it might have been just a tiny bit on the bad boy side, but in Ozark and Monroeville, the two towns where I grew up, the one pool hall was exotic to a boy of 16 or 17. Mysterious. Alluring. Irresistible.

    Most of the patrons were good old boys, in the best sense, usually from the wrong side of town--meaning perhaps they had even less material prosperity than those of us from modest (though not poor) means. I learned to cuss more easily there, and where to buy a beer if you were under age. We learned all the betting games, from nine-ball to snooker, six-ball and straight pool. We learned about the Amos and Andy board, a sloping board that covered about a third of a standard pool table, and had holes with numbers beside them. The goal was to draw a "pill" (dice with only one number) from a plastic bottle, then shoot a ball into a hole so that the ball number and hole number combined matched your pill. Hit the eight ball into the seven hole if you held a 15 pill and you won the bet, usually a dollar for each of the four or five players.

    But my favorite small-time bet was when we all wanted a Coke. Yes always a Coke. Not Pepsi, which was a Yankee drink back then (then?). So anyway, next to the drink box was a United States map, with a string pinned to the town location. We'd each pull a Coke bottle and look on the bottom for the city where it was originally bottled. Then measure the distance from where we were. Panama City might be only a hundred miles, but St. Louis was five times that--or something like that. I can't even remember all the cities where Cokes were bottled, but it was a fine bet to see whose bottle traveled the greatest distance. Even today, when I run across a short Coke, I am instantly transmitted back in time to a smoky pool hall in Monroeville, to the clack clack of pool balls, laughter at Smitty's joke we'd all heard before, to the high seats looming over the pool tables. To Jeff amazing us with his runs of 20 or thirty balls without a miss in straight pool. To the incomparable taste of that icy Coke when stuffing four dollars into a jeans pocket because my bottle traveled all the way from California.

    Posted by Philip Shirley

  4. homerleehomerlee on 12/11/2008 10:14:43 PM

    I have a set of the official rules for Amos and Andy that I would be happy to fax you. I got them from Steepleton's. It appears that what I have was the original sheet that came with the boards. I have made my own board to play with since they are no longer available. I found an old one in the local pool hall and used it for measurements. I did have a guy at another local pool hall price me 300.00 to build one for me. After I built my own I know now why he was asking that much. I'll post a picture of it as soon as I get a chance. Any way if you would send me an e-mail to dhess@aisinauto.com with your fax number I can get you a copy of the rules.

    Thanks, Duane

  5. homerleebilliardsforum on 12/14/2008 9:39:57 PM

    Hi All - FYI, the Amos & Andy Billiard Board Game Rules that homerlee has sent me have been posted in the Billiard Rules section.

  6. homerleeguest on 6/29/2012 6:59:07 PM

    I have an Amos and Andy board for sale. Its really old but in great shape.

  7. homerleeguest on 7/25/2014 1:06:31 AM

    I have the original plans and blueprints for the board you're looking for a 7' 8' & 4-1/2 x 9' pool table plus the plans for keno poker for 7' & 8' pool tables. I also have the original rules on how to play the game the correct way and how to rack the balls for keno. If you want to build your own boards, I also have the plans for building the keno jig for making these boards. I also build and sell these boards myself. I got the original rules and plans from Harry Wilhelms pool room in 1961. If you would like to have these plans and rules, just respond and leave a way for me to contact you. I will check back later.

  8. homerleeZIGGY on 1/26/2015 3:58:31 PM

    I want a copy to build for a 9 foot table. Text me at 910-840-4378. How much for you to make one?

  9. homerleeakpapaear1966 on 3/15/2015 3:51:14 PM

    Do you still have the Amos and Andy board template?

    If so, can you reply below?

  10. homerleeuser1521392258 on 3/18/2018 12:57:39 PM

    Regarding the Keno board / Amos & Andy board, how much would it cost for a combo board (with games on both sides) to fit an 8-foot oversize pool table? (46" x 92")

  11. homerleeuser1536767747 on 9/12/2018 8:55:48 AM

    I would like to buy an Amos and Andy board for a 7-foot table.

  12. homerleesharknado1984 on 11/16/2018 6:41:22 PM

    I'm looking for the original plans and blueprint to build an Amos and Andy board for an 8 foot table. Anyone have any?

    Or if someone makes them, how much do you charge for the Amos and Andy board?

  13. homerleeuser1546545924 on 1/3/2019 12:05:25 PM

    I would like plans for a 7-foot table.

    Can you contact me to discuss pricing?

    joncue0304@gmail.com

  14. homerleeuser1564264226 on 7/27/2019 2:50:28 PM

    I read several post regarding how to play on the Amos and Andy boards but not being a pool wizard I'm hoping someone can help me with the basics:

    • Can you use more than two balls to match your pill?
    • Where is the cue ball spotted?
    • Do you shoot in rotation with making the number one ball first before moving on to number two etc.
    • If a ball is made does the shooter shoot again until he does not hit a hole?
    • If the racked balls pyramid is point toward the board the cue ball is behind the second diamond line, where do you hit to break?

    I am likely missing more basic questions so if someone would help me out with the questions and additionally if I did leave out other need to know "stuff" I would certainly appreciate it.

    Our Amos and Andy board is made using oak and cedar wood. Anyone interested in purchasing a nice Amos and Andy board can send your contact information, and I will send you additional photos.

    Our board is shown here on a nine foot pool table:

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  15. homerleeuser1536767747 on 8/22/2019 9:09:30 AM

    I would like to purchase one of your Amos and Andy boards.

    My contact info:

    gastallard@hotmail.com.

  16. homerleeuser1581880921 on 2/16/2020 11:22:02 AM

    To whomever posted the comment above regarding having a jig to make these Amos n' Andy boards would you PLEASE email the plans to me at corianneolsen@gmail.com ? Thank you!

    guest on 7/25/2014 1:06:31 AM

    I have the original plans and blueprints for the board you're looking for a 7' 8' & 4-1/2 x 9' pool table plus the plans for keno poker for 7' & 8' pool tables. I also have the original rules on how to play the game the correct way and how to rack the balls for keno. If you want to build your own boards, I also have the plans for building the keno jig for making these boards.

  17. homerleeRayMills on 6/27/2020 1:28:55 AM

    1. I just watched a demonstration video on YouTube of a man named John Ackerman playing on H.P. Schaefer game board from the early 1900s. It said this type of board sold at auction for $4500!

    2. This probably has a simple answer, but what did Amos & Andy have to do with this game?

  18. homerleeuser1624447919 on 6/23/2021 4:32:00 AM

    Do you still make and sell these Amos and Andy boards?

    If so, can you give me a list of the sizes available as well as your current price list?

  19. homerleeuser1644446094 on 2/9/2022 2:34:55 PM

    I would like to purchase an Amos n Andy board if anyone knows how to find one

  20. homerleeuser1646144379 on 3/1/2022 6:19:39 AM

    I would like to buy a copy of your Keno board plans and rules.

    honeycutt354@yahoo.com

  21. homerleeOhioPool on 4/21/2022 10:11:35 AM

    I found a bunch of Saunier-Wilhem Keno Boards in an abandoned building which used to house a pool hall.

    Let me know if anyone needs dimensions.

    IMG_20220419_095643_HDR.jpg

    Also, here is a set of rules for pool keno ("KE-NO" as played with a pool table and one of these keno boards):

    keno02.jpg

  22. homerleeuser1655356452 on 6/15/2022 10:14:12 PM

    I am looking to buy a keno board for an 8-foot pool table (or even just the plans to build one).

    If anyone has one, please contact me:

    gralerie@aol.com

  23. homerleeOn-the-snap on 5/31/2023 7:25:56 PM

    I would like to purchase the plans/blueprints for the Saunier-Wilhem Amos & Andy and/or the Keyno boards.

    Please contact me at

    t.d.minke@gmail.com

    Thank you in advance.

    vintage-keyno-board-foot-pool-table_1_4042f46059a0fe1fce5f12b78754e9e8.jpg

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Plans to Build an Amos & Andy Board

  • Title: Plans to Build an Amos & Andy Board
  • Author: (Duane Hess)
  • Published: 11/19/2008 10:14:05 AM