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90% Worsted Wool on eBay Vs Simonis 860 Pool Table Cloth

3/11/2023 11:02:29 AM

90% Worsted Wool on eBay Vs Simonis 860 Pool Table Cloth

Here's what I don't understand about pool table cloth;

Why does the "90% worsted wool cloth" show every little cue ball hit and the Simonis 860 cloth doesn't?

The 90% wool cloth plays well and is tough but it marks-up right away.

My Brunswick Gold Crown III with Simonis 860 cloth doesn't do this.

So—what is it about the composition of the cheap eBay cloth that causes the marking? Is it the high wool content?

90% Worsted Wool on eBay Vs Simonis 860 Pool Table Cloth

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  1. BallBusterbilliardsforum on 3/12/2023 2:52:54 PM

    I assume you are talking about white scuff marks and/or burn marks.

    Two things come to mind:

    1. The "cheap eBay cloth" is mis-advertised (and isn't really a 90/10 blend).
    2. Simonis controls the entire manufacturing process of their product (whereas the makers of the cheaper stuff sold on eBay sellers most likely do not)

    Mis-Advertised "Cheap" Pool Table Cloth

    Think about it, how would anyone ever check that it's a 90%/10% blend without paying for costly lab testing? Sellers know this, and take advantage.

    We see it with lots of things:

    • Excessively cheap N-95 masks marked "N95" but most certainly would never meet the specs required for N-95 compliance.
    • Knock-off products of any kind which look identical, but are certainly made more cheaply e.g. thinner material, different material all together, etc.

    On the Simonis website, they actually list their blend as follows:

    90% wool/10% nylon ; ± 410 g/m2

    ...notice the tolerances? I wonder if the eBay stuff is still a 90%/10% but with far greater a tolerance?

    I wonder also what the other "10%" material is? Simonis is Nylon I believe.

    Controlling the Manufacturing Process

    As I understand it (from the Simonis website), Simonis controls the entire process of manufacturing starting with the raw materials.

    • Tighter Weave - Simonis marketing materials talk about it's special "tight weave" - I wonder if this could be a factor?
    • Strictest Quality Controls - Simonis probably has tighter quality controls, whereas the cheaper sellers do not. Tighter quality controls controls would mean a higher percentage of each back is discarded. This would make the cloth cost more. Part of what allows eBay sellers to sell for so cheaply might be that they waste less by way of looser quality control.

    Of course, all of this is just anecdotal. I don't have a contact at Simonis who can help with this, unfortunately.

    I'd love to hear from someone who knows their cloth better than I do.

  2. BallBusterBallBuster on 3/12/2023 5:51:00 PM

    Yes, BUT, I have bought and used the "cheap" eBay cloth and it sure does feel like it has a high wool content while installing it because it doesn't easily stretch like cheap, mostly nylon cloth.

    The cheap stuff looks good and plays well, but the burn marks are excessive.

    I'm going to contact Simonis and ask them what they do to keep the burn marks to a minimum.

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90% Worsted Wool on eBay Vs Simonis 860 Pool Table Cloth

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  • Published: 3/11/2023 11:02:29 AM
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