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APA League Regulations for Changing Player Declaration

9/5/2020 2:56:21 PM

APA League Regulations for Changing Player Declaration

What are the APA rules around changing which player is up?

There is nothing in the APA manual or rule book regarding this, so I wanted to ask the community:

  1. How do you determine who is put up for a match during APA League play?
  2. If your opponent tells you "player 1 is up", can they change that if the break shot hasn't occurred yet?

I had a scenario take place during this past game night where the opposing team said, "we put up player 1", and my team said "we're putting up player 2", then the opposing team said, "never mind, let's change that".

It is my understanding that this is not allowed, but I could not find any confirmation in the APA rule book or manual.

Things got kind of heated between the other captain and I because I said they couldn't change their designation after knowing who we put up to play, but they disagreed with that because the break hadn't happened yet.

What do you guys think?

APA League Regulations for Changing Player Declaration

Replies & Comments
  1. user1599342980RayMills on 9/5/2020 6:38:46 PM

    I went to the APA website and found this in the current APA team manual on page 25 (and a beautiful model on the cover!) and have emphasized the relevant section:

    12. Who Plays First & Order of Play

    Team Captains flip a coin to decide which team will declare the first player. The winner of the toss has the choice of declaring first or having the opposing Team Captain declare first. Whichever team declares first in the first match, declares second in the second match, first again in the third match, and so on.

    Once both teams have declared a player, the players cannot be changed unless a team's choice of player will violate the Team Skill Level Limit rule or the Limited Senior Skill Level rule. While teams are not required to notify their opponent that they are about to break the Team Skill Level Limit rule or the Limited Senior Skill Level rule, it is considered good sportsmanship to notify the opponent, and to give them an opportunity to declare a different player.

    Source: media.poolplayers.com/TMRB/Team-Manual-English.pdf

    The strategy of selecting players is crucial to APA league games unless you have overwhelming faith in the handicapping system. When teams declare players they are revealing strategy that is unfairly compromised if the other team tries to act differently based on that information. The break has nothing to do with it, and apparently, each team should have a witness to what's been declared.

    Except for not being selected to shoot in two National Championships, I've loved my time in the APA pool league but now live too far away from any teams.

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APA League Regulations for Changing Player Declaration

  • Title: APA League Regulations for Changing Player Declaration
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  • Published: 9/5/2020 2:56:21 PM
  • Last Updated: 9/15/2020 5:25:55 AM
  • Last Updated By: billiardsforum (Billiards Forum)