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Difference Between Illegal Shots and Fouls in One and Fifteen 8-Ball

3/27/2015 2:10:58 PM

Difference Between Illegal Shots and Fouls in One and Fifteen 8-Ball

I was reading the one and fifteen 8 ball rules, and have a question.

Could you please explain the difference between an illegal shot and a foul shot?

In the one-fifteen pool rules page, it seems from your paragraph on Illegally Pocketed Balls, that a shot might be illegal but not a foul, because if the shot is illegal and also a foul, then a second ball is spotted.

Thanks in advance if you are able to respond.

This question relates to the following billiard rules:

Difference Between Illegal Shots and Fouls in One and Fifteen 8-Ball

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  1. Tom Breckonbilliardsforum on 1/14/2018 11:02:59 PM

    I did have another look at the rules, however, and agree that the "2nd ball spotted if it's also a foul" rules doesn't make a whole lot of since. In fact, the Kings Point Billiard Club, which holds regular one-fifteen tournaments, and publishes their own one-fifteen billiard rules has removed that sentence entirely.

    But, to clarify the verbiage around the finer points between a foul, illegal shot, and illegally pocketed balls, see below:

    I know this is a while on and you probably have it figured out, but this question on the difference between a foul shot vs. illegal shot in 8-ball gets a lot of views, so I wanted to put an answer here.

    The one-fifteen eight ball rules are an extension to the rules of 8 ball pool, and rules about legal shot making, and fouls found there also apply to one-fifteen billiards.

    A player's shot is considered illegal if it fails to meet ANY of the following criteria:

    • Hit one of their group of balls first and,
    • either (a) pocket a numbered ball, or (b) cause the cue ball, or any numbered ball to contact any rail.

    An illegal shot always results in a foul, BUT legal shots (shots which meet the above criteria) can also produce a foul. Examples of the latter would be a shot that meets the above criteria (as such it is classified as a legal shot), but, for example, the cue ball falls into a pocket (e.g. cue ball scratch foul) or, a player's hand hits another ball as he pulls his cue away.

    At first I thought I believe you might be thinking of the statements in the one fifteen billiard rules which talk about legally pocketed balls (vs. a legal shot, per sé).

    For example, in one-fifteen billiard rules, you can have pocketed a ball illegally e.g. you put one of the special balls in the wrong pocket, while also committing a foul for some other reason e.g. you scratched the cue ball as well.

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Difference Between Illegal Shots and Fouls in One and Fifteen 8-Ball

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