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Does the Inning End if Player Calls "Safety" and Pockets a Ball?


Does the Inning End if Player Calls "Safety" and Pockets a Ball?

I will be hosting 9-ball pool tournaments utilizing BCA rules and need some clarification:

Can you sit after calling safety and make proper ball?

Remember I am looking specifically for the BCA rules. I'm not asking for opinions but rather, the specific rules which apply to the question.

This question relates to the following billiard rules:

Does the Inning End if Player Calls "Safety" and Pockets a Ball?

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  1. LuckyPraymills on 5/13/2020 7:32:20 AM

    The "General Rules" section applies to about 8 different games, including Scotch Doubles and Wheelchair play.

    Regarding your question about 9-Ball safety:

    1-17 Calling a Safety

    This rule applies to 8-Ball and 14.1 Continuous.

    Source: playcsipool.com/uploads/7/3/5/9/7359673/official_rules_of_csi__170714_.pdf

    The rest of my reply regards "Rules for 8-Ball"...

    2-8 Safety Play

    Prior to any shot except the break, you may declare a safety. On a safety (in 8-Ball), your inning ends after the shot regardless of whether you pocket any ball.

    Source: playcsipool.com/uploads/7/3/5/9/7359673/official_rules_of_csi__170714_.pdf

  2. LuckyPbilliardsforum on 6/2/2020 3:39:13 PM

    I am afraid @raymills has not answered your question in the context of the game you were asking about - nine ball.

    The exact wording of your original question is a bit confusing.

    Can you sit after calling safety and make proper ball?

    I will paraphrase to what I think you are asking, and show you the rules for that. Feel free to clarify if I got it wrong.

    If you call "safety" before your shot, do the rules permit you to end your inning?

    I will answer it, then point to the WPA rules which support that. The WPA is the official world governing body of pool. The BCA officially follows the World Pool-Billiard Association rule sets. When you go to various BCA websites, their rules all either link-to, or reference the WPA rules. My answer will follow those.

    The answer is: When you declare a "safety", you execute your shot, and the inning is over, regardless of whether or not you pocket your called ball in the called pocket.

    Supporting WPA rules (emphasis ours):

    8.0 - Definitions Used in the Rules

    8.17 Safety Shot

    A shot is said to be a safety shot if the game in play is a call shot game and the shooter declared the shot to the referee or his opponent to be a “safety” before the shot. Play passes to the other player at the end of a safety shot.

    Source: wpapool.com/rules-of-play/

    The general rules apply in 9-ball, and this blurb from the general rules also shows that play always passes after a safety, no matter what.

    1.0 GENERAL RULES

    1.6 Standard Call Shot

    ...

    In call shot games, the shooter may choose to call “safety” instead of a ball and pocket, and then play passes to the opponent at the end of the shot.

    ...

    Source: wpapool.com/rules-of-play/

  3. LuckyPraymills on 6/5/2020 6:58:57 PM

    The rules I cited stated that the safety rule applied to 8-ball and 14.1 only.

    Is 9-Ball a "call shot" game?

  4. LuckyPbilliardsforum on 6/9/2020 8:30:39 AM

    Ahh, good point. 9-ball is not a call-shot game.

    I guess my answer doesn't apply either. I've further confirmed that there are no "called safeties" in nine-ball.

    This means that the question, as asked, doesn't make sense in the context of nine-ball.

    Can you sit after calling safety and make proper ball?

    Someone asked a similar thing in a question I found online, and one answer said:

    [In 9-ball,] you can call safe until your face is blue but as soon as you make a legal shot and a ball drops you must continue shooting.

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Does the Inning End if Player Calls "Safety" and Pockets a Ball?

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