I want to see what your thoughts are on putting a pool table in a room with a post that I know will get in the way.
I want to put a 8' pool table in the basement. Length is not an issue with 17+ feet. Width isn't an issue either except for a post that is 12 feet from the wall width wise and about 10 feet length wise.
Is this going to be that big of a deal? Does anyone have a similar situation you care to share?
I am sure everyone is going to say "I wish it wasn't there" but would you rather not have the pool table at all? Is it that inconvenient?
- BilliardsBill on 8/14/2012 8:37:18 AM
I would definitely get the table. Better to have one than to not have one. You could get a short cue for times when you are stuck shooting with the post in your way. It may not be ideal, but you'll get used to it.
- quiltface on 8/14/2012 8:43:51 AM
hey thanks for the reply, do you have a similar situation? or had?
i was browsing around and saw this cue for such situations anyone had experience with these?
- Mitch Alsup on 8/14/2012 9:50:34 AM
I have a cut (wall) out of my otherwise tight room.
I have a short stick that can be used to make shots here, but in general, I made up a rule whereby:
- after declaring a shot
- demonstrating that the cue hits the wall,
- relief is given by moving the CB along the path it would have taken towards the declared shot.
- quiltface on 8/19/2012 7:20:51 PM
what are your room dimensions? are you talking a 8x4 table?
- Fenwick on 8/27/2012 12:02:33 PM
A quote from a search, Question about support posts in basment........
"A structural engineer can have a beam designed to carry your house's weight with out those posts. Not inexpensive work."
I don't believe everything I read but I've seen posts moved and relocated. I've also seen removable posts. Take it out, put it back. It has a threads on top so you could loosen it and tighten it when done.
I would consider moving and adding but removing, no way.
Same search turned up some advice. "We strongly advise against removing a column without a Structural Engineer."
- Mitch Alsup on 8/27/2012 3:33:05 PM
I mentioned my wall in my pool table roo, above.
Originally, I was going to knock out the wall since it was short, and not directly supporting "much" as it was not on the beam line of the foundation,... But when I got up into the attic I found out that wall was supporting the A/C.
I know enough about structural engineering that I knew the support provided from the wall could not be removed with long term "good results". I do know how to add a diagonal post, and jack up the load while installing. But it gives the room a decidedly art-deco look that does not work with the rest of the house (excepting perhaps at Halloween.)
So, for now, the wall stays, and I just use liberal rules of relief when the wall causes interference.
- Zeke on 8/30/2012 6:55:17 AM
Most basement "columns" are installed to allow a floor joist load from above - typically carried by two or three sistered 2 x something members, to eliminate sag and structural weakness in spans over 12'.
A competent builder, architect or framer would know how to open the ceiling (assuming it's already rocked and painted) and cut back the butted, perpendicular joist members - allowing a third or fourth floor girder to be added - or better yet what's called a "fletch plate" (steel plate ~ 1/2" thick by whatever center girder height is already in place), add one member to the steel to sandwich it in between - and eliminate the support post altogether.
I would think such a job would run around $1,000 - probably less if yo live in a rural area.
Having been involved in such a project on two occasions, the steel "plate" would run around $200-300.
If yo use the table for a thousand years, that's only a dollar a year to have an "open basement with no obstructions." ;-)
- DsmithBFL on 6/20/2013 3:32:01 AM
I personally don't think its gonna be that big of a deal. It is completely manageable. However, i would advise treading the entire billiard setup carefully. Even if there were any tight spaces, you must be careful with your cues.
- tasha_silvester on 7/3/2013 3:06:05 AM
I think the dimensions you mentioned are perfect for fitting an 8' pool table in your room.
- Zeke on 7/8/2013 7:08:25 PM
Many times a builder will throw in a lolly column if he's not sure about spans and dead loads to C/H/A.
They may not be required at all. The floor above without out it however, might noticeably "bounce."
Your building official gets the big bucks. Ask him to stop by on his way home and show him the span. Buy him a beer, and you'll get all you need ;)