Need Confimation Few Rules!
3/3/2009 11:54:57 PM
Need Confimation Few Rules!
Need Confimation on this rule. Say i have 2 balls left and the opponent is on the 8 ball, there 8 ball is sitting right on the edge of the pocket. am I allowed to DELIBERATLY Knock his ball into safe area? thus giving him 2 shots (depending on rules) Is this Unsportsmen like move allowed or not?
Also if they hit the white ball behind there ball with no ball hitting the cushion to snooker me is this considerd a foul (foul snooker?) or not We Are Playing Pub Rules
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Need Confimation Few Rules!
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Fenwick on 3/4/2009 9:12:14 AM
There is no definitive answer playing pub rules unless you set them up before you play. Where I come from I've heard so many rules playing 8 ball it makes my head spin. Even when I ask what rules we're playing halfway into the game the rules change. Had it happen just yesterday. One reason I despise playing 8 ball. First off we established we will be playing bar rules, ball in the kitchen on any scratch. Then it's BCA rules, ball in hand but ball or balls made on the break are your group. Then it's ball in hand on any foul? I just went with the flow. I grew up playing bar rules when playing a safe was not allowed. So I'd just call 6 rails on the 4 ball and miss cue resulting in a safe. IMO there is very little true sportsmanship playing by bar/pub rules. Your words. "Is this unsportsmanship like move allowed or not?" You be the judge. BTW if you hit the 8 ball out of turn it should be a foul. At the very least it would be you loose your turn at the table or losing the game again depending on the rules established?
Just my 2 cents.
Mitch Alsup on 3/4/2009 9:58:45 PM
The question you ask is why the ball-in-hand rule was invented.
So, if you knocked his 8-ball out of a pocket, he gets to put the cue all anywhere on the table and re-establish an easy shot.
Playing a safety is perfectly fine as long as the rules of any shot are obeyed. a) the stroke has to be legal, b) the first ball contacted much be legal, c) after first contact some ball much touch a rail--otherwise ball-in-hand.
Many people in bar/bubs dislike playing the ball-in-hand rules, mandatory pot or rail rules, and several foul rules. This leaves the games open for interpretation--where all heck insues.
I had a similar incident last week. I broke, ran 6 balls in and had no shot on a frozen ball. So I took a two rail shot gently touched the balls and potted my last ball. He threw a fit and would not play me again that night. YET, he is the one who is unwilling to establish a ball-in-hand penalty for fouls.
Anyway, the point of this rant is that the penalty for fouls needs to be sufficient that when one intentionally occurs, that the opponent has a reasonable chance of catching back up (or surpassing and winning). Without this kind of penalty, there can be no such thing as a gentlemans game (in my opinion). I just wish there were some way to have 5-yard penalties and 15 yard penalties depending upon the intentionality of the foul.
str8rippinpro on 4/29/2009 12:57:38 AM
Nice Got the crack and all
Need Confimation Few Rules!
- Title: Need Confimation Few Rules!
- Author: str8rippinpro
- Published: 3/3/2009 11:54:57 PM
