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Has anyone ever heard of this rule in 8 ball

6/22/2010 11:11:12 PM

Has anyone ever heard of this rule in 8 ball

I was playing in a 8 ball refereed tourney tonight and had 2 shots back to back. I was told both shots I wanted to do were illegal and lost the tournament because of them. Please tell me if you ever heard this before or was I just cheated?

I was shooting the 8 ball the other guy had 3 balls left: one was in the pocket opening and the 8 ball I had to shoot was less than an inch from it, straight in. I wanted to call the 8 in the pocket and shoot it into the ball in the pocket and pocket both his ball first then the 8 in one shot. I was hitting my 8 ball first then it would hit his ball then both would fall. Is this a legal shot?

I moved the 8 ball legally and he missed and I had a shot in the same pocket as before, except this time I could legally hit the 8 and drive it into the tit of the pocket and let it hit the back side of his ball sitting in right side of the pocket and make the 8 ball by it hitting off the back side of his ball pocketing the 8. His ball would not have fallen in this case.

With either of these shots I would have won the tournament, but both times I was told I had to make the 8 ball CLEAN?

Then I was told that "making the 8 ball clean" meant that the 8 ball COULD NOT HIT ANY OTHER BALLS before being pocketed!

AM I wrong or was this just not correct?

The tournament was a pool hall tournament and even though I was told he could show me the book, even though they played with the following:

  • "8 ball on break wins"
  • "no penalty if you miss hitting your object ball"
  • "no ball in hand, have to shoot after a scratch behind the line"
  • "no spotting of the ball if it was behind the line" (e.g. you had to kick at it)
  • "no push"
  • "shooting an obvious leave or snooker is frowned upon"

I understand in these places that "house rules rule", but does it sound like this "make the 8 ball clean" rule was made up on the spot to give the local guy the game?

I want your opinion or expertise on this one.

This question relates to the following billiard rules:

Has anyone ever heard of this rule in 8 ball

Replies & Comments
  1. mika112112Mitch Alsup on 6/23/2010 8:09:25 AM

    When the rules contain the "no slop clause" the 8-ball must go in clean. We play this at the local bar. This rule may or may not be a part of BCA, APA, VENA,...

    The rest of the rules you put in the second paragraph are generally used in bars with "no slop" rules.

  2. mika112112mika112112 on 6/24/2010 1:38:13 PM

    Thanks Mitch! I had never heard of these rules, but if you have I reckon they exist, so thanks again. I feel better knowing I wasn't cheated. I just had a bad lie and I can live with that!

  3. mika112112quickshot on 6/24/2010 2:29:39 PM

    Rules are also applicable in APA.

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Has anyone ever heard of this rule in 8 ball

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