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Ball to Rail Foul

5/14/2010 8:01:06 AM

Ball to Rail Foul

I was asked this question and could not answer it: If a player fails to contact the rail with an object ball or cueball after contacting the object ball it is considered a foul. Is the oncoming player allowed to place the ball anywhere on the table for his next shot (full table ball in hand) or does he shoot from where the ball stops after the shot?

This question relates to the following billiard rules:

Ball to Rail Foul

Replies & Comments
  1. gibsonquickshot on 5/14/2010 8:22:27 AM

    It becomes ball in hand for your opponent

  2. gibsonMitch Alsup on 5/14/2010 1:26:27 PM

    All things deamed a "foul" result in BIH to opponent under tourament rules, except scratch (or CB leaves table) on an 'open break', which becomes BIK (ball in kitchen.)

    Most of the time on bar (pay machine) tables, these fouls are simply ignored*, except scratch fouls which become BIK (Ball in Kitchen). The situation you ask about, on a bar table (under casual rules) would be ignore problem and opponent gets BOT (Ball on table).

    Many bar tables play under a pair of rules collectively known as "casual rules". The first non-tourney rule of this pair is: generaly known as "no slop" that is the player must call all the little nuances between the stick hitting the CB and the OB dropping in the pocket. The second rule is called "quality shot". Here, if the player takes a "quality shot" at the OB there is no foul for missing or contacting other balls first. So even if the player misses the OB if the CB comes within a balls diameter (or so) of the intended target, it's deamed 'OK' (i.e. no foul). Under this set of rules, if the cue stick whacks an OB as the stroke is comitted, its "OK" and opponent gets to replace ball or leave it. The object is for the player to play with honor and almost always the next shot take place with BOT.

    In my opinion; having BIH the only option for a foul is overly harsh to players playing at less than APA-6 levels. After giving this a lot of though I don't have any way out; but am willing to listen to suggestions theretowards.

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Ball to Rail Foul

  • Title: Ball to Rail Foul
  • Author: (Mike Newberry, Sr.)
  • Published: 5/14/2010 8:01:06 AM