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8 Ball Rules - Foul by Not Hitting Any Balls

8 Ball Rules - Foul by Not Hitting Any Balls

I just have a question what you think is the correct way to handle such a predicament.

I will set the situation.

Player A makes a foul shot (not hitting any balls) and in turn hard snookers player B.

What is the correct way to follow up on such a foul?

  • Player B is forced to attempt to hit his own ball in most likely foul giving Player A 2 shots?
  • Player B is allowed to take the white ball to the D?
  • Or something else?

If anyone could clarify how this should be handled that would be great?

This just happened to me in a game recently and it brought up a little disagreement.

This question relates to the following billiard rules:

8 Ball Rules - Foul by Not Hitting Any Balls

Replies & Comments

  1. MandoMitch Alsup on 1/12/2013 3:59:52 PM

    Player B gets Ball in Hand anywhere on the table after player A's foul (any kind of foul!)

    The only way player A can completely snooker player B with a foul is to completely surround player B's last ball so that player B has to perform a jump shot to make legal contact first.

  2. MandoZeke on 1/13/2013 11:09:17 AM

    Which of the six sets of 8-ball rules do either of you quote as the basis of the question - and the answer?

    I haven't played 8-ball in years, nor do I plan on playing anytime soon, but a missed shot (hitting no balls) is still a missed shot (assuming a cushion "touch" occurred by the CB) - or is it?

  3. MandoMitch Alsup on 1/13/2013 3:46:16 PM

    In order for it NOT to be a missed shot:

    1. A ball of the players group must be contacted with the white ball
    2. Before the white ball touches a ball of the other players group, or the 8-ball
    3. After making contact of A, at least one (non-white) ball has to touch a rail or drop into a pocket.
  4. Mando2ballrun on 1/14/2013 4:35:10 AM

    It seems that this question comes up all the time here? Player "A" must contact his ball first then any ball must touch a rail. If a rail is hit with the cue ball first, the cue ball must still contact one of player "A's" balls and ANY ball must then go to a rail in order for it to be a good hit. If this does not happen in that order, it is a foul. Player "B" would get ball in hand. If you hit a cushion then your ball, and something does not hit the rail after that happens, it is a foul. Opponent gets ball in hand.

  5. MandoZeke on 1/14/2013 9:23:50 AM

    Again I ask: Which of the six totally different sets of 8-ball rules - are you citing?

  6. MandoMando on 1/16/2013 2:28:55 AM

    Hi Guys, I appreciate your input, When you guys say "ball in hand" are you refferring to that i can take the white ball off the table and place it in the "d" or behind the line?''

  7. Mando2ballrun on 1/16/2013 4:30:40 AM

    Ball in hand means you can place it anywhere on the table.

  8. Mando2ballrun on 1/16/2013 4:40:08 AM

    I can't think of any where this would not be the case. In fact I can't even think of any game, 14.1, 9 ball, 10 ball, 1 pocket, where a good hit is any different? The penalty might be different, but it is still a foul.

    Bar rules does not count! Can you name one where it is different?

  9. MandoMitch Alsup on 1/17/2013 12:03:17 AM

    The only restriction is that you may not commit a foul while placing the CB anywhere on the table. A foul would include moving another ball, touching another ball, or otherwise altering the table position.

  10. Mandomaria on 3/1/2013 3:26:07 AM

    Good discussion..thanks i also got solution of my question..

  11. Mandotasha_silvester on 3/4/2013 10:51:05 AM

    Its simple as far as I understand the question - Player B can have the ball anywhere in the kitchen to make the shot

  12. Mandoallanpsand on 4/7/2013 9:27:40 AM

    If you are playing the ancient bar rules, then expectation is to attempt any kind of stupid attempt to make a good hit. You're stuck with the problem.

    Therefore, the solution is to put on an act that results in a "miscue" that only moves the CB a very short distance (an inch works).

    Raise your face to the heavens and loudly complain that the pool gods hate you. Leave your opponent to stupidly attempt a 3-rail kick to pocket a ball.

    You end up with a good leave and an easy opportunity to run-out to the win - and proper social behavior has been observed.

    Otherwise, the rule is - no legal hit, incoming player can pick up the cue ball and place it anywhere on the table for his shot.

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8 Ball Rules - Foul by Not Hitting Any Balls

  • Title: 8 Ball Rules - Foul by Not Hitting Any Balls
  • Author: (Kris Mandryk)
  • Published: 1/12/2013 12:53:30 AM